Dining with Della: Nancy Gabrielse

March 21, 2016

Since Nancy lives on a farm, we decided on the old fashioned, low-tech version of connecting – a telephone call. We sipped our tea together, me to the dull roar of traffic in my Chinatown office and her to the restful sounds of nature.

Nancy and her husband, Owen are organic farmers living in Grand Forks, B.C. Their beautiful acreage backs on to the Kettle Valley River, and their farm is appropriately named the Kettle River Farm. I had the distinct pleasure of sipping a cold one on the riverbank there, one hot sunny afternoon. On the other side of the river, up the embankment is a Doukhobor graveyard. The day of our visit we could hear the distant sounds of old-world singing as a service was being held. It is a magical place.

The river supports their whole farm as well as a host of wildlife in the area. When they started the farm in 2000, I recall the lengths they went to for organic certification. Today, their products are such high quality that they don't have to do any marketing. The local buyers want local, top-notch fruits and vegetables and are willing to pay when they know the source is so great.

Helping tend to the crops are their three children, son Liam and twin daughters, Clare and Ivy. 


What worked... 


What one bit of communication impacted your life?



Nancy was fast to say her previous work in the PR industry had a big impact on how she viewed the world. The need to communicate something positive was ironic to her. She mentioned Mohawk Oil billing itself as “Mother Nature's Fuel”, and while their ethanol product may have been slightly less impactful on the environment, she felt the tag line was laughable. In her opinion, it was certainly not worthy of the “Mother Nature” handle.

She is frustrated by a corporate world that lays people off even when they are making money because they care more about shareholder returns. "Living out in the boonies" she talks about the challenges of small communities torn between wanting to attract industry to support employment or finding alternate ways to keep their town sustainable. Perceptions about a dwindling population cause concerns when often it is just a demographic shift. Nancy kept hearing about a decreasing population so she looked it up and sure enough, Grand Forks has been home to around 4,000 people for a very long time. There may not be as many kids, and retirees may be increasing, but the overall the population number is staying the same.

Going from the anonymity of city life to a smaller community also had an impact on Nancy. It does not take long, when you have children and are involved in non-profit work, to become known and get to know the familiar faces. It has taken time for her to find the right balance when popping into the grocery store quickly and not feeling like you need to stop and chat just because you know someone. On the flip side, Nancy sees how people in the city can look so grim and rushed while shopping and how it’s refreshing to see smiling faces while shopping local in Grand Forks.

Nancy had another prime example of a pivotal communication time in her life. She joined a non-profit group full of idealistic optimism and thought they could shoot for unanimity. As she notes, if you want to make changes in a small town, you get involved and do it. She chaired her first meeting and was totally invigorated. It was great for a few months, then the difficult meetings started with divided opinions and seemingly insurmountable issues.  Alliances form and politics ensue but ultimately "you have to be the change, you want." Nancy struggles with having to disagree with people she really likes but she is firm in her convictions around healthy food and environments for the children.


As she discussed the challenges with her good friend, Mardi from Kelowna, she was reminded Mardi's grandmother often quoted the line, “Those who matter don't mind and those who mind, don't matter.” Sometimes, you just need a built-in ignore button.

What did not work... 


(Note from Della: Nancy needed more time to think on this question so she followed up with an email… a perfect illustration of when to bite your tongue –in her own words)

I thought about “What didn’t work” a bit (actually there’s a lot of fodder there) but in a nutshell, it’s “over-communicating” that has caused me the most grief. I’ve realized that many times it’s better just to say what you need to say without embellishment. 

A case in point: When Owen and I were travelling in Mexico together near the border of Guatemala, our bus was stopped. We all sat in our seats as Mexican army officers came onto the bus checking passports. Owen showed his passport, I showed mine and then I asked - "do you need to see my tourist card?”  I had kept this nondescript little piece of paper that had been handed to me at customs on the way into Mexico, stuffed into my passport. Owen had tossed his instantly, thinking it was unnecessary after getting through customs. The army guy looked at my bit of paper and then, back to Owen, and asked him to show his “tourist card”. When Owen couldn’t produce his, he was hustled off the bus and interrogated by three armed military guys holding machine guns. I sat, sweating bullets in my seat and when he didn’t come back on, I went to see if I could clear anything up. Needless to say, under the stressful circumstances our Spanish wasn’t at its best but somehow we managed to convince them we were legitimate travellers, had plane tickets home, were travelling together etc. etc. 


So…adding extra information can be a very tricky thing whether in the public sphere, to your kids, at PAC (parent advisory council) meetings, border crossings - you name it. It’s funny to think that even regular folks have to package their message.  It’s worth it to think your words through carefully - no matter how obvious and right they may seem, pausing gives you the chance to be much more effective, concise, diplomatic. This is why I prefer writing to speaking in a lot of cases. I’m much better at saying just what needs to be said, or being diplomatic when I slow down. 

What if... 

What advice would you give to your younger self to enhance your ability to communicate with others – and why? 



Take risks. Don't put up with not taking jumps to try things. 

(Note from Della: I think she has mastered taking risks by moving from the city to a farm!)

Work on not thinking negatively, even though when you plan for the worst you are often pleasantly surprised.

Be less of a dweller and move on faster.

She notes how her kids constantly amaze her, as they seem so much wiser than she was at their age.


(Note from Della: Hmmm… that might have something to do with great parenting)

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